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		<title>Enough &#8220;Helvetica Neue&#8221; already!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jason Langdon</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Firefox 3 user, I was mystified when I upgraded from FF 2 to see that a few sites had some very ugly italic text going on. The number of sites not rendering "properly" has steadily grown to the point where I decided to figure out what the hell was going on.

Well it seems that FF3 doesn't render "Helvetica Neue" very well... in fact it does a very bad job indeed!<div class="read-more"><a href="http://blog.wrench.com.au/2008/11/07/enough-helvetica-neue-already/">Read more &#8250;</a></div><!-- end of .read-more -->]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Firefox 3 user, I was mystified when I upgraded from FF 2 to see that a few sites had some very ugly italic text going on. The number of sites not rendering &#8220;properly&#8221; has steadily grown to the point where I decided to figure out what the hell was going on.</p>
<p>Well it seems that FF3 doesn&#8217;t render &#8220;Helvetica Neue&#8221; very well&#8230; in fact it does a very bad job indeed!</p>
<p><a class="imagelink" href="http://blog.wrench.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/screen_grab.png" title="Dodgy Helevtica Neue rendering FF3" target="_blank">This is a screen shot of the issue I&#8217;m talking about</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.shauninman.com" target="_blank">Shaun Inman</a> posted a comparison which shows how the <a href="http://www.shauninman.com/tmp/helvetica/" target="_blank">font should be displaying</a> (it&#8217;s displaying like the 3rd font in the list and I&#8217;m assuming it should actually look like the 6th line!?)</p>
<p>Now I have lots of variations of Helvetica and Helvetica Neue on my system, but Vista seems to be having some difficulties with the anti-aliasing in Firefox.</p>
<p style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue';">Is anyone else seeing the same behaviour in their browser?</p>
<p>More to the point is anyone getting sick of using <a href="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843" target="_blank">Firebug</a> to modify the css on the fly to remove Helvetica Neue from the stylesheet!?</p>
<p>PS. for the record this font looks equally as crap in IE7 on my system.<br />
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<em>UPDATE: <a href="http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/" target="_blank" title="Adobe Flash CS4 page">Here&#8217;s another fairly popular site that&#8217;s using Helvetica Neue</a> and <a href="http://blog.wrench.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/grab_2.png" target="_blank" title="Adobe page rendered with Helvetica Neue">this is what it looks like on my system</a> &#8211; tut, tut Adobe.</em></p>
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